A Collaborative
Online Discussion:
Anonymity and
Authorial Responsibility in Computerized
Classrooms
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[Host:] We
begin our discussion today with various
individuals who have been invited to this
virtual panel to express their views on the
question of anonymity in a computerized
classroom. Our guests include
Kip
Wheeler
and Darren
Reiley,
both graduate students at the University of
Oregon and teachers of Freshman
composition.
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We
also have joining our discussion
Dr. Kali
Hassensprenger,
anarcha-feminist and author of the
controversial new book, Outside-In
Education: Thus Assessment doth make Asses of
us All. Finally we are also honored to
have joining us today, the distinguished
Professor Emeritus of Philology and
Antiquities,
Dr. E. M.
W.
Mustcrotchette.
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[Host]:
Now as I understand it, there has been an
ongoing debate in English
608
concerning matters of anonymity in electronic
classrooms. How exactly would you describe
your concerns?
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[Kip]:
It's primarily an issue that has arisen
between Darren and myself. We both want our
students to excel at writing in an on-line
environment, and in many classes teachers have
their students use "handles" or alternate
identities in on-line discussions. As an
undergraduate myself, I was a student in such a
classroom at West Texas State University, using
the handle "Matilda the Hun." The idea is that
students who would otherwise be too shy to speak
in class would feel more comfortable expressing
their honest opinions in a real debate if their
identity remains concealed. In my experience,
both as a student and a teacher, it does seem to
have that effect in the short-term, and I
understand the value that might bring. Sometimes
by wearing masks, we create a space where we
feel more free to express ourselves.
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[Mustcrochette]:
Like Prince Hal and his cloak in Henry
V, I assume?
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As I
understand Darren's position, Darren
thinks--
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(mutters) That long-haired
neo-hippy.
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I'm sorry,
what was that?
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(coughs) Just clearing my
throat. Do go on.
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Precisely.
My worry is that,
rather than encouraging students to speak for
themselves, in the long run we may create the
opposite effect. Students may become so used to
expressing themselves behind a protective,
electronic disguise, that they ultimately feel
even more uncomfortable when it comes time to
taking a public stand on issues they feel
strongly about by joining group debate, or
publishing writing, or participating in other
forms of discourse. We need to instill in them a
habit of attaching their own names to their own
thinking. The best way to ensure that people are
responsible and honest in their research and
publication is to ensure that the writing is
linked to a specific name, on whom readers and
listeners can appropriately heap credit or
blame. That may seem a bit Foucauldian, but it's
valuable.
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[Jeerer in the
crowd]: 'E called him a right long-'aired
'ippy, 'e did. I 'eard it with me own two
ears.
My dear sir, you must be mistaken. Do go
on, Mr. Wheeler.
And if you've got
something to say, Il Duce, either say it to the
group or keep it zipped!
I'm sorry, I've lost my
train of thought with these disruptive personas.
Maybe I should let Darren
speak for himself here.
Darren?
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[Darren]:
I've got two points to make here Kip, the
first of which concerns this issue of students,
or writers in general, being held responsible
for their work. The second deals with the notion
of assessment--and perhaps Dr. Hassesnsprenger
would like to respond to that herself--but since
Kip and I first crossed foils with the former
issue, I'll start there. Partially I agree with
you, Kip, at least about the danger of students
becoming reliant on electronic masks, as you put
it, and then becoming increasingly reluctant to
speak out in person. Because of this danger, I
would never rely solely on such an approach.
Using anonymous or pseudonymous standpoints from
which to voice opinions is a tool for empowering
students to speak when they might not otherwise,
for allowing students the opportunity to try out
some of their more fringe ideas without fearing
the feeling like theyll be pounced on for
them. This is a case in which I think it
can be productive to remove the
accountability. If students have a persona
through which they can try out problematic
positions, the discourse community (of which the
facilitator is an important part) will then
offer its responses to that idea and hopefully
point out the problems with it. The
student will then have been able to see the
problems with the
argument, without feeling
shamed to have said something
stupid. Without that shield,
many student think these problematic positions
but never voice them out of fear, and
therefore never have the
opportunity to work them out.
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[Hassensprenger]:
I would take that one step further, and
challenge this neo-Fascist and extremely
phallo-centric ideology that wants to own
everything, and that has resulted in a brand
of identity politics that insists on
identifying Self by distinguishing from
Other. This is the basis of a patriarchal
system that we're talking about here-- a
system that feels that it must maintain an
established hierarchy of Grader and Graded,
and that is predicated on a Capitalist and
elitist need to reward the "good workers"
[making derisive quotes in the air with
her fingers] rather than encouraging
people to feel an intrinsic investment in the
work they produce.
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[Host]: Well then, what
about student collaborative projects? I believe Darren
has expressed some interest in such projects?
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[Darren]:
I truly believe that this whole insistence
on tying an idea to a particular individual is
not only conceptually problematic, in a
Foucauldian sense, but completely neglects the
natural checks that members of a community place
upon each other. If students work
collaboratively, they will, if properly
encouraged, parcel out duties, hold each other
to the work and hopefully maintain a dialogue
that in effect keeps each individual member
responsible for what he or she contributes. If
one person is slacking, then the group has the
option of expelling that member from the group.
In fact, I would contend that collaborative work
actually encourages a greater sense of
responsibility rather than a lesser: I know for
myself that I work harder when a group is
depending upon me than if it is only myself that
will be called to task.
It is true that I may
not be giving sufficient credit to the discourse
community's ability to check individual members.
Richard
MacKinnon, who
wrote about an act of virtual
rape on
LambdaMOO, noted that the group collectively
came up with a virtual punishment for a deviant
member, but questioned whether such
self-policing is sufficient or "mattered" when
only a persona is punished, not the person
responsible.
I think
Susan
Romano's
article dealt particularly well with this issue
also. She maintained that giving students
the opportunity to challenge their notions of
identity can provide a very liberating
experience for students and instructors alike.
But she also emphasizes the need for what she
calls "rhetorical authority" which amounts to
the kind of monitoring that Kip and I both
appear to favor. Though her critique is more
focused on the ways in which women's voices
become overpowered and suppressed by male
privilege even in such pseudonymous virtual
settings, I think her argument fits into this
context as well. But Kip, you were referring to
issues of student self-assessment,
right?
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You're too damn soft
Reiley! This fascist is only barely veiling his
misogyny. The whole basis for a grading system
goes right back to Adam being granted the
privilege of naming everything in the world. It
is a topdown system of ordering that is held in
place to separate drones from soldiers, and
workers from worked-for. It is obvious that the
Academy's sad dependence on "evaluating"
students [derisive finger-quotes] is
nothing more than a vestige of this androcentric
and Christyrannical mythos, and one that has
become far more harmful than productive. Its
most apparent result is that students are only
interested in receiving good grades rather than
feeling inherently driven to create good work.
They're only secondarily interested in learning
new skills or discovering the true process of
inquiry; their primary concern is figuring out
how to do as little as possible to get a B or--
even more rare-- an A. So I ask you WHY?! Why
this insistence on evaluating everything. Why
can't the students hold themselves responsible
for what they produce, and why can't the
teacher's job be to facilitate, not to
assess?
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This is the part of
Kali's book that I agree with the most. In my
experience, students have developed this
Outside-In mentality towards their work.
Removing the emphasis on individual performance
and extrinsic rewards of that performance can
only encourage students to seek a more lasting,
intrinsic meaning to their
work.
But Miss
Hassensprenger, why create an artificial
division between facilitating learning and
assessing it? Assessing learning is a means of
facilitating learning, if done appropriately.
And how can we be sure that the actual
facilitation of learning is going on in the
anonymity of the collaborative project? If one
student is failing to learn and needs
constructive criticism, how will the teacher
identify that student and provide the feedback
the pupil needs, even desires? He will be lost
in the anonymity of a collaborative
project.
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I'm not sure all
students share your ethical concern for being
responsible to their peers. Even if the majority
share that sense of responsibility, it only
takes one bad apple who fails to contribute to a
project to lessen its quality, and thus ruin or
diminish the learning experience of all the
other students who were relying upon him or her
for a share of the work. I've never had a
student suggest for himself or herself an
average or below-average grade, even when the
work was substandard by my judgment. When
students evaluate other students on the project,
nine times out of ten, they agree that so-and-so
did a marvelous or a horrible job. But about one
time out of ten, I would receive conflicting
evaluations: one student would write "so-and-so
really helped the group with x," but another
student would write, "so-and-so missed all our
group meetings and didn't contribute anything
until the night before the project was due." Is
it appropriate to trust the first student? The
second student? To split the difference and mark
the grade as "C"? I would fear that (in my own
case) the desire to let students assess
themselves and each other in an anonymous,
collaborative project would be casting aside my
responsibilities as a teacher by foisting them
on unsuspecting freshman.
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You said
something at the beginning of that last bit
there that struck me, Kip: that a "bad apple"
not contributing as much to the group somehow
diminishes the learning experience for the
rest of the group. How? Seems to
me that such an experience enhances the
learning value. It may lessen the final
product, but it's the process that's
important in group activities anyway-- at
least for me. And that seems to get to
the heart of the issue in general. A
process-oriented pedagogy stresses the road,
not the destination. It emphasizes the
importance of learning techniques, not
figuring out ways to please an authority
figure to get a good grade. And since
the best thing we can teach our students is
how to learn and critique themselves, I find
it important to encourage my students to
evaluate themselves based on standards that
we determine as a group. But, (I see
your brow furrowing, Kip) I realize that
often we are bound to assign grades
authoritatively to our students, as is the
case for Composition Instructors at the U of
O, when they can't seem to do it responsibly
themselves, but I would argue that those
cases are rare .
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When I have assigned
collaborative projects-- with which I've had a
great deal of success, I would add-- I make my
students turn in a written evaluation of both
their own contributions to the projects, and of
the contributions of each other member. That
keeps it fair
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I would like to know
what your secret is, Darren. The few times I've
tried collaborative projects, I've also had
students turn in written evaluations of their
own work and that of their partners. (I must
admit I've only tried the process two or three
times, then gave it up in disgust; if you've
been doing it for awhile, you may have developed
some helpful tricks to make it
work).
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As teachers, I know we feel a
certain responsibility to make sure that
students receive as accurate an
evaluation of their work as possible--
Speak for yourself Adam! You're
so top-heavy I feel like I'm
leaning!
I
know that grading carries with it a
certain ideological bias. To a
degree, it is subjective in nature,
I will grant you. I'm not sure that doing away with
evaluating the individual and instead evaluating a
collective group of students solves that problem. In my
past experience, collaborative projects have always been
nightmares, both for my students and for me as a grader.
It's another form of anonymity because I am often unable
to assess fairly who contributed what in the larger
project. If an online project includes an extraordinary
annotated bibliography, which student did that part? Or
did each student contribute one or two articles? Who
is responsible for that
outstanding collection of slides during the class
presentation? That person deserves
special commendation. However, what about the student
that failed to turn in his share of the work, or the one
that ignored his section of
the assignment, forcing Susie to do two parts? So much of
the work in collaborative assignments takes place out of
class, and I cannot observe all that goes into its
construction. In our 608 readings, we have an essay
written collaboratively by multiple authors under a
single pen-name
Myka
Vielstimmig. In the
concluding footnotes, it was clear that the writing group
responsible often shifted in its membership from one
publication to the next. To
me, that creates disturbing possibilities. Suppose the
early members of such a collaborative project publish
fantastic materials. Later,
the group's composition changes. Imagine someone under
the group's pen-name then publishes a work with grotesque
errors in citation, or makes a claim that turns out to be
patently false, and becomes the laughingstock of the
academic discourse community. Will that stigma attach
itself (unfairly) to those earlier members who published
under the same pen-name, but had no part in the later
projects? Having your name attached to
something keeps you honest. Maybe
it's just Foucauldian influences at
work, but if our intellectual work
can be linked back to us, it may keep us honest, and give
us a stake in producing the best intellectual work
possible.
From these comments, it sounds
like you place a great deal of importance on intellectual
property. Is that true?
Yes.
And Darren thinks it would be
useful to break that paradigm?
Well, yes, actually I do, but
I'm not wholly committed to the issue. As a writer and
poet myself, I have a sort of egoistic desire to be
congratulated for my work,
to be rewarded for my ideas, as it were. But that's
really not where I see the issue that Kip just mentioned:
that is, the issue of assessing a collaborative project.
I think he makes a good point about the members of the
group known collectively as Myka Vielstimmig--that a
sloppy member could discredit the name of the whole
group, but again, I would stress the importance of the
discourse community and the natural checks that members
of a community hold each other to. As for assessing a
group....
What do you make of the
recent court injunction against napster,
in which anonymous individuals can go online and download
materials protected under copyright?
I myself am in
favor of something like the potential of
Napster. Here,
we have various forms of art readily
available to the public in a way never
possible before.
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Horse piddle, I say. You must have hippie
leanings also, in spite of your minimal
coiffure.
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Mr.
Mustcrotchette--
That's Professor
Mustcrotchette!
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Does nobody in this room have a sense of
copyright
history? Shortly before the French
Revolution in the late eighteenth-century, the
French abolished copyright laws, if you will
recall. Their ideals were the same as those
discussed here--eliminating the idea of
individual intellectual ownership so that the
greater community could freely share these
materials. It was disastrous! Artists, writers,
and musicians often had to drastically cut back
their production of literature and art, because
it was no longer feasible for them to support
themselves through the sale of such items.
Imagine Voltaire, if you will, being forced
literally to tend his garden in order to avoid
starvation! Bootlegged copies of printed
materials flooded the market. And fifteen years
later, the Republic voted overwhelmingly to
reinstate the copyright laws after the
disastrous experiment. Those fools like you who
lament the loss of Napster and bemoaning the
fact the law won't let you commit acts of
intellectual piracy at your whim. Taking another
work and reproducing it without credit is theft,
plain and simple.
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--Professor
Mustcrotchette, I don't think the two are
comparable.
Copyright laws
specifically are designed to prevent
individuals from
selling and making
financial profit by reproducing another's
work without permission. Yes, Napster might
potentially hurt the profits of big
record-companies. But
it isn't stealing from them. The people using
the Napster
website before the court injunction weren't
taking their copies and selling them on the
street for a profit, they were giving them
away freely to
whoever wanted a copy. Yes, that might have
deleterious effects on music sales, but I'm
sure giving away free food would also have
deleterious effects on restaurants, and that
doesn't mean the act should
be outlawed.
Boy that's a great
example of an upstanding model to emulate
there, Robespierre, the French
Revolutionaries! Ha! We all know how
dedicated they were to justice and individual
rights.
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If Napster were selling
the materials on its website without the
permission of the artist
or owner, I would agree that the act was
piracy. But there
is no law against sharing. It's sort of like one
person buying a big television set, a DVD
player, and Jurassic Park, then inviting
eighty or so thousand friends to come over and
watch it with him. As long he's not charging
them any money, he isn't violating copyright in
any way I can see. In the same way, Napster is
like an individual purchasing a music CD,
burning five-thousand
copies, and then giving them away at the corner
of the block to
whoever wants a copy. There's no law against
giving gifts freely, at your own expense. The
original donors to Napster all had to
legally purchase their
first copy before they could alter it to
MP3 format. Only
then was it possible to place it on the net for
others to share. I
think its important that the original artist's
name be attached to such duplicated files, so
individuals do not try to take an Alanis
Morisette CD, replace her
name with another, and change the
title.
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Shouldn't
we return to classroom discussion? To
students?
But this event does relate directly to
students. Academic equivalents to this
newfangled Napster contraption will appear,
copies of scholarly works on-line, student
essays on-line.
'Ere now, we already
'ave that, don't we now? It's called the
internet, and your students will be a usin'
it, and are a usin' it, mark me words,
lads.
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The intelligent thing would be to steer
students away from the internet, too, before the
ease of accessing materials anonymously and then
stamping a name falsely on the first page
contributes to the increasingly philistine
nature of modern culture. These problems would
be greatly lessened if we stuck with
time-proven, approved means of publications like
books and print.
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No, we shouldn't try to
discourage such new technology. We should
instead teach our students to make use of it
responsibly. If we don't do
that, there are two
possible outcomes I can see on a wider social
level when it comes
to copyright protection. Those government
agencies in charge of enforcing copyright laws
will undertake a sort of
prohibition-style
approach. Their attempts
will ultimately prove either infeasible
or feasible, and
either way, the result will be
negative.
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Suppose it turns out to be infeasible to completely
stop Napster-like groups on-line, but only
to nab an occasional offender. What would the result
look like? The federales run a few stings to nab the Napsters,
but each time they knock down a website of that sort, a Gnutella or
Nutunes will pop up to take its place. We'll end up with sporadically
enforced crackdowns that will result in occasional
arrests, but not prevent the trend. Recording
and publishing industries will sue whoever they think they can get money
from, and the equivalent of virtual speak-easies
will pop up on the net where people using aliases will swap the
material as they will. If the music/writing/art swapping movement is
forced underground, the odds increase that these sites, forced to swap
files at some risk to themselves, will begin to charge users to download
such stuff. The price would be less than what record-companies are
charging now, of course, but I suspect the flowering
of illegal copies will supersede the sharing
model. The days of free-exchange, of sharing files, may be over. If
users can't legally share your music files on-line in an open manner,
we create a profitable niche for music bootleggers to secretly undercut
prices. I think human generosity will end at the point people run the
risk of fines or prison. The second possibility
is even worse, I think. There may be a way to
effectively and completely monitor the web for illegal copies that requires
very little manpower. That is digital watermarking, a practice some
museums and graphic designers are already experimenting with in their
online materials. Copyright holders might mark all their files with
code that functions like a combination
of metatags and cookies. Every month or two, they send out the equivalent
of a spider or a 'bot to search the web for copies of that file--perhaps
an image of Mickey Mouse, perhaps the Nike swoosh, or an MP3 File of
AC/DC's latest song, or a Stephen King novel. Each image or file contains
within its coding a hidden virtual watermark. The spider or 'bot then
check to see if the copy was legally obtained. If not,
the program notes the computer and its unique numeric address.
Checking that against registration, the legal
copyright owners might then be able to send a bill to that computer's
owner, or call the police, or whatnot. That's too Orwellian for my taste,
too 1984-ish. But the potential is there. It is being developed.
The only way to prevent commercial interests from researching and creating
such products is for the internet community to police itself.
Those writers, artists,
scholars, who put a lot of work into a project--in
some cases years or even
decades--deserve recognition (and yes, maybe even
payment) for that work. If we don't
instill in our students a strong sense of intellectual
property, and a sense of ethics concerning such
matters, they will probably
continue the cycle of copyright breach. In turn, that
will encourage writers, artists, and publishers to use
such Draconian, Orewellian measures to monitor
computer-users.
Exactly the stance I would
expect from a white male doctoral candidate (you can hide
behind your green font all you want, but I can see your
real color!) Intellectual property rights are there to
protect the elite physical property holders, and
no one else. Vandana
Shiva once told me a
story of a graduate student in Chemistry who worked for
years with a professor to develop a technique for
genetically coding a seed so that it wouldn't reproduce.
A procedure invented, by the way, so that farmers would
have to buy the seeds every year and become increasingly
reliant upon the company that "owns" the seed. Anyway, if
the seed itself were not sinister enough, the professor
insisted on being the primary name under which they
published their work-- for better credibility, he
claimed. Then, when the graduate student-- who had
collaborated on inventing the procedure, mind you-- tried
to use the procedure for his own individual work, the
professor had him arrested for copyright infringement.
There's your recognition, for you. Such laws protect the
rich and the privileged; they do not ensure recognition
for work. Ask Nicola
Tesla about that
one.
I really would like to turn
this discussion back to the classroom.
What dangers or benefits do you
see in the adoption of multiple or imaginary
personas?
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One tendency is that
the discussion might tend to wander. Each
persona "wants" to say something, and that
something may or may not be on the topic at
hand.
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I
see.
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There is a cure for
that though. Bart
Beaudin, a
Professor of Adult Education at Colorado State
University, has proposed a list of
techniques
to prevent the discussion from wandering. It's
not an insurmountable problem.
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Again, there's also
that hurly-burly about a virtual
rape in
LambdaMOO a few
years back. One danger is that personas
will get out of control, engage in
antisocial or disruptive activities within an
electronic environment. Richard
MacKinnon at the University of Texas
at Austin "witnessed" the verbal assault. He
noted in his article on the event that "a
persona lacks accountability for its actions"
when "utility to the user or a 'stake' is
absent" ("Virtually
Unaccountable").
Even here at this university, two years
ago on an e-mail list, we had such an incident
that even made the pages of The Emerald.
In that case, it wasn't even a matter of being
completely anonymous so much as being in a
faceless environment that encouraged a student
to make remarks that would never have been
tolerated in my classroom.
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I haven't noticed that
sort of disruption so much in the classes I have
taught myself, but
I did notice that as an undergraduate student at
another university. In a course on
creative writing, the teacher had us post short
stories on the Daedalus Exchange, and then in
real-time swap feedback with each other. Both
the author and the evaluators used pseudonyms.
At least one
individual used this
virtual space as an arena for obnoxious
and disruptive
behavior. He (or maybe she, but I suspect
a he) went by the handle "Connie Lingus"
in some sessions, or "Phil Lasheo" in others.
The teacher deliberately set up the system
preferences in the beginning of the term so that
not even the instructor would ever know who was
using which nickname. (The only comment the
instructor made to the disruptive student was,
"Phil, your nickname sucks.") The teacher's
philosophy was that the students would police
themselves. To a certain extent, we did. We
cajoled and insulted Connie/Phil mercilessly
whenever he stepped out of line, until
eventually the user stopped using those
two monikers and
appeared with a different handle on the Daedalus
Exchange.
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I wonder, however,
if you actually did gain something productive
from that experience. The class as a whole
learned how to shut down a disruptive influence
by their collective will, independently from an
official authority figure's intervention. Surely
that sort of lesson is worthwhile in and of
itself?
Perhaps so. I hadn't
really thought of it that way.
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However, it took about
half the semester for this to occur, and
recidivism exploded
in the last week of class. We all felt it was
really the
teacher's job to step in
and shut down that sort of disruption, not
our job. Over the
course of the semester, we must have wasted
hours in dealing with Connie/Phil.
This is an example of
why I think its important for the facilitator to
play an active part in these virtual discussion
groups. If it had been me running the MOO, I
would probably have tried to determine earlier
if Phil's participation was offensive to the
group, and then intervened if that were the
case. Exactly the same as if it were any
listserv dialogue. Besides, I think
another important element to Freshman Writing
courses is encouraging students to find
authority in arguments and reasoning, not in
some meaningless hierarchy of age or privilege
conferred by the Institution. Something I
think few graduate student/teachers really
consider.
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Rubbish. Absolute rubbish. It would have been much
faster if the teacher could identify which student was
being disruptive and stopped him during the first
session. We have authority figures for a reason.
Sometimes it is more ethical to silence one student's
voice so that others may speak. I'm certain that members
of this younger generation of teachers are all too
lily-livered to admit the unpleasant fact, but truth is
truth. Teachers have the responsibility to give students
a timely and efficient education. In this example, out of
misplaced desire to decentralize the classroom, the
teacher ended up wasting several hours of how many
students' time? Twenty? Thirty? All to avoid stepping on
one miscreant's ego? All to give this philistine the
freedom to be insulting and disruptive? Authority simply
won't work unless everyone knows who the authority-figure
is.
Who is the authority-figure in a
virtual environment, then? (If we need such a
thing.)
Out of all the speakers here, I think my rank and
distinguished publications speak for themselves, as well
as my honors from Wittenberg University. The
authority-figure certainly isn't you, Mr. Wheeler. Or Mr.
Reiley for that matter. The way you are dithering here
assures me of that, quite clearly.
But in a virtual environment, I
don't think it's that clear. For
instance, perhaps Darren has logged
on as "Kip" and is using my name. Or
maybe I am using his. Or maybe we
are alternating every other message between names. There
is no necessary correlation between the name that
appears in the discussion list and
the writer. In a virtual environment, identities can be
always appropriated by others. I could log-on with
the handle of "Anne
Laskaya," head of the Composition Program, or as
John Gage, head of the
English Department. It might instill a reticence in the
other writers on the discussion list to see a
pronouncement from some writer labeled "jgage." In
effect, it would be too easy to steal
auctoritas from another
scholar, or set up straw-men to be knocked
down.
[jgage]: He's
absolutely right, but it is still an unethical
misappropriation of identity.
And the students involved in an on-line debate might
choose to play it safe,
on the off-chance that the
person pretending to be me really is me. How
can we form a discourse
community, or trace a logical argument to a conclusion
unless we have a clear sense of who is in that
discourse
community?
Yes, How do
rhetoricians adapt for an audience when we
are uncertain to whom speak? How do we arrive
at shared assumptions with individuals who
don't really exist? How do we produce a real
debate when individuals can shift personas,
pretend they hold view they don't, or refuse
to take responsibility for something a
persona says?
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But aren't you
doing so now? Aren't we producing a debate,
even if
the audience, and
the other writers aren't sure who is really
writing
what? I've also
noted that we have far more speakers here
than we have writers, at least according to
my roll-sheet. Some of the people speaking
here must have adapted
personas.
That concerns me
too
Look here, Hosty,
don't try to play like you're not a fictional
character, we all know the
greenguy
is controlling what you say. But we all know
that Derrida has shown exhaustively that all
identities are socially constructed fictions
anyway, so let's address the real issue of
students adapting to an audience. It's
not the upper echelons of the rhetorical
elite we're here to discuss, now is
it?
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'Ere now. Mebee
credit's not the point at all, 'ere. Mebee
a valid
argument's a good argument no matter whare it
'riginally popped out,
what? Why does anybody
need credit for it at all, now? That's
argumentum ad 'ominem, it is.
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My dear sir, you
must be a half-wit. Go and mate with the village
idiot, and perhaps your children can achieve
full status as complete morons. What would be
the point in creating such fictions? If a
fictional character makes a subtle or powerful
argument, and everyone loves it, how will the
real author ever get credit for it? When the
publication is complete, who obtains the
recognition, the line on the c.v., so to
speak?
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But remember Rob Howard's
discussion of the Storm
Front website.
Recall the exercise in which he
showed his class an argumentative essay from this
Neo-Nazi website without revealing the source? The essay
argued in favor of the formation of white student groups
in high schools. The students in
Rob's class all agreed with the
argument, and then were horrified when Rob showed them
the source. Here's a case where the origin of an idea
is important, both for
understanding an underlying ideological purpose in
proposing the argument, and for
recognizing the potential for rhetorical
damage if a writer were to treat
this material with the same amount of credibility we
might give a different source. Suppose a student were to
repeat that argument while being
ignorant of the source. However,
some members of his reading audience
recognizes its origin. The audience
might then equate the student with the Storm Front racial
supremacist movement. It's not safe to disregard
the source of an idea.
That's an important point for students to understand, so
they can avoid being manipulated by sources with
commercial or political biases.
True, but that student would
also be held accountable for those ideas by
his or her discourse community
after the fact, and the repercussions for
recapitulating Storm Front's
arguments would very likely teach him or her to look more
carefully next time. And
that's exactly the point! This entire discussion has been
based (I think) on an assumption that the writing class,
or the collaborative or anonymous experiment, is a
self-contained entity. And weve been trying to
ferret out all of the political and ideological
ramifications within that entity itself--which is
important I grant you. But a writing class goes far
beyond the ten weeks in which it exists in time, and the
most important element to such a class is not the final
grade or even the concrete product students turn in at
the end, but the rhetorical and critical skill they carry
away with them. In the case of the Stormfront essay,
Robs students learned an invaluable lesson: NOT
that intellectual property is important to hold the
author responsible, or even
that we have to know precisely the origin of an argument
(although I would never say that's not important). The
lesson is that we must learn to examine the rhetoric of a
piece closely, in order to explore all of the
implications of an argument in terms of what is being
implied and the assumptions upon which it rests. We
wont always be certain of the origin of an
argument, or even who crafted it--that is the reality of
the internet. But that doesn't mean we should outlaw it,
or shrink from creating anonymous for a in which students
have to deal with these ramifications. On the contrary,
the gradual disappearance of the author is not simply an
ideological stance that Im espousing--it is an
inevitable result of the internet--
--and of the increasing power of
a Police State--
...and it is therefore
imperative that we teach our
students to look at a text with these critical skills
intact.
[HECKLER] But, Joor just
dodgink the issue again, YesNo? Le students need to see
le Ouebsite to understand the racisme, eh?
Exactly. In a truly anonymous
on-line environment, in which the argument or
final-product appears unattached to any organization or
name, the students in Rob's class would never be able to
make the connection Rob revealed by placing the argument
back in authorial context. Without seeing Storm-Front
website, the reader would never know she was perpetuating
and supporting the arguments of a Neo-Nazi group. The
only reason the students would learn the lesson about
knowing the source you quote is because Rob took the time
to pull away the veil of anonymity and show them the
organization responsible behind the essay. The students
may be a bit more suspicious about quoting a source
without analyzing it first, (which is definitely a good
thing), but the reason they are now more
suspicious is they have learned the link between argument
and author.
Bah, joor just all agreeing with
each other now. Pooey!
What about the possibilities
of play? It strikes me that creating anonymity via
personas has a particular appeal in the imaginative
aspect of writing. It creates a space for role-playing
even as its members enjoin in intellectual
debate.
(snorts) Like children? We seek to produce
intellectually mature adults here, not pander to the
adolescent impulse.
I found the Vielstimmig
essay to be loads of fun, and I imagine the authors
enjoyed crafting it, and yet, they are all mature adults,
and what's more, they used the playfulness to achieve a
particularly rhetorical, pseudo-hypertextual,
effect.
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Rubbish! Horse Hockey!
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You're skating on thin
ice with me, there, CrustMotchette!
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For me, the aspect of play is the one advantage of
anonymity that gives me no moral qualms. As a contributor
to this collaborative on-line project, it has been
tremendous fun to explore an argument by taking on
various personas. I'd consider anonymity in the early
stages of an on-line, classroom discussion. Maybe during
the first day of debate. But after students have had
their fun and games, and tried out various writing styles
and authorial voices, I would want the debate eventually
to move back into discourse where everyone knows who is
speaking. The only disturbing part is that the personas
do take on a life of their own, after a while.
I feel the same way.
Wait a minute--you are the persona, aren't you? And
I'm the author?
Poppycock. I'm as real as you are. Only Ms.
Hassensprenger is an artificial construct, as is easily
discernible by her ridiculous name. I created her as a
composite of the Indian Death Goddess (Kali) and--
Nobody can say I didn't
warn him. Disparage the Goddess at your own peril,
Musketcrotch, your days of flaccid patriarchal privilege
are over! [Grips the podium and shatters it over
Mustcrotchette's back]
Note how the Kestrel always
shrieks just before it dives for the kill....
You want a piece of me too
Frenchie LaRouche? I'll be there as soon as I'm done with
Crusty! [Takes Mustcrotchette in a
headlock]
I say! Stop
that!
Who's responsible for making
them stop?
I... I'm not
sure.
[sound of sirens and
jackboots on pavement]
[voice via bullhorn]:
"This riot will desist immediately. This is the Reality
Police, Verisimilitude Squad. You are under arrest for
disorderly conduct in an academic
environment."
Show some id first. Who are
you?
"Lieutenant Tiller.
Verisimilitude Squad. You're under arrest also,
Hessensprenger, for assaulting an eminent scholar. Come
quietly or there will be . . . trouble."
[blubbering]: Officer, it wasn't my fault
at all. It was her! She's a madwoman. She doesn't even
wear makeup! She--
Tell it to the judge, Mr.
Fancy-Tweed-Suit-With-Arm-Patches.
[sweetly] He prefers
Doctor Fancy-Tweed-Suit, actually. I'm sure all of the
students who had to drop out of school because of your
elitist standards will enjoy seeing you in the joint, you
pompous...[BEEP!]
And so concludes our virtual
conference. I wish there were time to field questions
from the audience, but I'd be afraid who would appear
even if we did. Please join us here next month when
Doctors Brazen Brackenblood and Stacey Synecdoche will
take on poet/activist Briathar Kinesi in a real-time
animated presentation entitled "Sufferin' Semaphore: The
Net, The Blob, and the Emptied Signifier" Thank you... I
think
[exit all]
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